On this episode of Creating Space, Scott Lackey interviews Eugene Polupan, pastor at Anthem Church in the Pacific Northwest, member of the Church Formation team at Practicing the Way, and author with NavPress, to discuss his forthcoming book, Fighting like Jesus: Confronting Fear, Control, and Anger with Peace One Conflict at a Time. In our conversation, we unpack the connection between formation and conflict, asking who we are truly fighting, what we are fighting for, and why the way we fight matters. Eugene challenges the reactive patterns of fear and control and instead invites us into the alternative path of Jesus. We also talk personally about what God has been teaching him in this season of research and writing, and what has surprised and convicted him along the way. This episode creates space to reconsider conflict, not as something to avoid or win, but as an opportunity to become more like Christ.