DMV's Order UP Episode 12 "The Brief Moment Before Eternity"


DMV's Order UP Episode 12 "The Brief Moment Before Eternity"


Appetizer - Rest In Peace Andre Ross aka Birdman and Brandon Ward aka 8 Ball

Entree - Strong Black Male perspective on Parenting: Intro to the Upcoming series covering The 4 R's of Parenting With guest Dr Carmen Bovell

Dessert - Fools gold, Part 2 Washington Commanders crazy rant...


Episode Transcript
Coming to you from Crows Nest Studios in the upper room. We are two brothers from the DMV that's gonna give you food for thought with our topics being advertisers. My brother, my brother, man. How you doing, man? Feeling good, bro. Feeling good. Good. Feeling good tonight? Good. I am too, man. I'm glad to be back with you, man. Glad to be back with you. Yes. This is Ray Beats. This is Reggie White. And we are here giving you something called Order Up, as I did in the intro, as you know. Um, we're gonna start out, uh, our, our, our appetizer and, um, generally we would do a current event. Um, and what's really been current is the season that we, our families has been in. Um, and, um, we had losses of our bros, both of us lost two of our bros, uh, in our family over the last month. And we had back to back services over the last two weeks. Right, Reggie? Yep. Yep. Back to back. Bro. Yeah. So we've been dealing each with a week of, of grieving and mourning and celebration of life and everything that goes with it. And, uh, you, um, just to give a little legacy on both of our roles, I'm gonna let Reggie talk about his briefly, and I'm gonna talk about mine, but I'm gonna play some music in the background, some Gogo music in the background, cuz where we from? Where we from? Reggie. <Laugh>. And, uh, this is, this is, this is, this hasn't been, this is circa 1983 Wow. From Player's Choice Banding show, which is who I know. Um, Okay. And, uh, a group that I used to be a part of, um, Wow. And we were reminiscing. The Fells got together this weekend and we were reminiscing. Um, and they brought over some tapes. So we're just starting to digitize that actually. And we be putting out a YouTube channel to, uh, honor the group. And because there's not a lot of music out there that we did either, cuz there was two versions of the, um, the group started in 1983 and, uh, it, um, it, it, it, uh, evolved over the years. Band members came and went and they went through the nineties. So it, it probably had a 10 to 15 year run. And we opened, we opened for all over the Mid-Atlantic, all over the Mid-Atlantic. We opened for groups like n e g Essence eu, uh, and we, uh, and we headlined as well. Um, we played at LinkedIn University cuz our Congo player Rumple still skin, uh, was, uh, attended Lincoln University and had it on lock with the Kki crew drinking that Kmart liquor, uh, uh, back in the day before biz began. Um, and, uh, so, uh, go ahead, uh, Reg, and you can talk about your bro first, and then I do a little tricky to mine. Yes, sir. Man, my bro, Andre Ross, aka Bird Man. That was my bro. We go back about 30 years. Um, and I actually, uh, met him on, he was on the inside when I met him. He's, um, he's a brother of, um, my oldest daughter's mother. And, uh, when I met him, I heard about a thousand stories about him, um, from them being on the streets. Right. Uh, but I chose not to prejudge him by those incidents. I just, I judged him based off of him and our personal interaction. And I felt on the streets. He was known as Bird man. But I felt, when I met him on the inside, I felt I met Andre Ross. And, uh, Andre Ross was a wonderful brother. He was a loving brother. Loved. His family. Above all, God's current fearing brother, love Jesus, would go to church, go to Bible study, um, he would send inspirational text messages to his family and friends messages. We will wake up in the morning and we may see a touch. I would see like a text message that may say something like, Good morning, grow. God bless you and your family. I pray that the Lord will bless you to have a great day. Um, God continue to protect you, keep you, watch over you and your family. I love you so much. Yo bro, Andre Ross. And I would wake up almost every day with text messages like that and what would cause like that. And, you know, we, we had good fellowship, wonderful fellowship. Um, I think he loved and appreciate me. He was older than me, but he would call me big bro. Okay. And, um, and in a, a lot of ways he will make it seem like he benefited from the relationship just because, you know, my professional, um, career and, and I guess my, um, my maturity in Christ and things of that nature. But I told, I would always remind him, uh, the relationship was not one sided. It I benefited just as much as he did. I, I knew every single day somebody was praying for me. Right. Um, that supersedes somebody that can give me money or all of the other things because, um, he may not have been able to contribute to me monetarily, but he contributed to me in so many ways that was much greater than money or anything of that nature. You know what I mean? Um. Oh, absolutely. And so, um, a wonderful brother, um, ideally dearly miss him. I still have his number, my favorites mm-hmm. <affirmative>. So every time I pull up my favorites, I see his name. Right. Um, but, um, I believe, you know, I I I will believe that he's with the Lord. I believe he's in a better penalty release. Um, and so that gives some comfort. Yeah. I totally get it. I had a little technical difficulties and we might, There it is. And, uh, I'm just addressing it again. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. So I re I I I started it off in, uh, another, another application. Okay. But yeah. So did you have something else you wanted to say? Oh man. Just good brother. Yeah. Um, a lot of people came out to support his funeral to the point they needed an overflow room. That's a blessing. So. He, he. He touched some lives. Yeah. Yeah. We had an impact. Yeah. Um, the brother that, uh, that I lost his branding, Marcella's Ward, uh, his first nickname probably was BMW for his acronym of his name. But, uh, that's him talking in the background on this Golo tape. Um, and we called him Eight Ball. Um, he was, uh, he was, he was a younger brother. He was, he was, he was the baby, baby of the crew. And, uh, but you know, he, his big head was big in stature, man, <laugh>, um, he was a ride or die, whatever you asked of him, he would give, he had a infectious smile and, uh, uh, a wit about him that would light up a room. Wow. That wit was so quick. And, you know, I, I, I had a temper. Um. And one of my. Uh. Nicknames by default cuz of my temper, cuz I would always start the fights. Uh. Was incredible hope. And even though I was small and wore glasses, like, uh, Bruce Banner <laugh>, you ain't wanna see that other dude from eighth and H Northeast. You. Didn't want, they ain't wanna see the green. Guy. They ain't wanna see the. Green guy. My wife calls me big guy. We got that running in joke. Um, and I've got, uh, I've got, um, I've got incredible halt pictures, paintings, posters all over, you know, my studio and, and my part of the house, uh, it's decorated, you know, part of the La Marvel comics and the majority of them incredible halt. But, uh, Brandon had a way of diffusing me. Um, and he was just an engaging person. Right. And, you know, I was joking with his kids at the, at the Repa. Um, I was like, you know, if your dad saw you in that outfit, he'd be saying, You look, somebody get you Dan Silky Slim right there, Baby. <Laugh>. He come quick with stuff like that, you know. <Laugh>. And, uh, good brother, dedicated father and husband and friend, Um, to the end. To the end. So I'm, I'm so grateful that he was in my life. And I'm sure you the same way about, about Ross, you know? Yeah. That we are better because of them. Absolutely. You know, and they are in that brief moment before eternity at resting at peace. Right. Right. Um, I liken it to the fact that when you, when you are in a deep sleep, I mean, one of them good sleeps when you wake up and you don't know what time of day it is, where you at, that's where they at right now. In perfect peace. Perfect peace. Perfect peace. Because both of them brothers, even though they had a past. Mm-hmm. <Affirmative>, their future was in Jesus. Yeah. Brothers. Yes, indeed. And, um, y'all gotta understand, this thing is real here. You only got so many times to go around this sun, and it ain't all about chuckles and fun. Sometimes it's gonna be hard. Sometimes there's gonna be pain and sorrow because the cup that we drink from is bitter. Yeah. Yeah. It's bitter dog. And, um, but the beauty of it all, the beauty of it all is, you know, the creative said, I ain't going for safety and I'll be with you always, even until the end and after the end. That's right. And we are morning and we are in pain. But I take solace in the fact that the last conversation that I had with a was right around that subject that I was like, Bro, even if I don't see you again. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. But you know how much I love you, who loves you more. Right. Lean into him. And he acknowledged, he acknowledged his faith in Christ in his last days. And he, he, he stepped to it. Yeah. And as a true soldier, you know, we call each other soldiers because of what we went through on these streets, but he was a true soldier man. And fighting the good fighting. Yeah. Yeah. Where in my heart of hearts, I feel unequivocally without a doubt, he's going to hear well done. And, you know, well done. My good and faithful servant when, when the time comes. Man. I just hope that we get it right. That's right. So we can be on that side with That's. The goal. That's the. Goal what I'm saying. Because his grace is sufficient if we allow it to be. And it's every day, folks, it's every day. You gotta die daily. That's right. Know. And, uh, you know, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm pleased that we have these memories, this music, his legacy. He has beautiful children. His, his youngest was over here with me yesterday, whipping my butt in Nintendo <laugh>, uh, uh, on the switch we playing Mario cart. Um, he loves Mario, you know, and, uh, you know, he was just having a ball and, uh. Mario card. Okay. Mario. It was Super Mario. Super Mario. Or one of Mario Card, Super Mario card. But it was all of Mario. So, you know, I got all that stuff here in the house for the grandkids. I don't play it, but, you know, I know that he loved it. So I made sure that it was up to date with the latest games. And we sat over here for about three, four hours and just sat there and played games, man. Mm-hmm. <Affirmative>. Cause that's what it's about. Yeah. Showing unconditional, unequivocal love. When you have the opportunity, give people the flowers why they're here. Why they here, why they here believe in that. Hey, hey, listen to my main rumble still right here. On. That's my boy ball bringing it. All. Right. All right. Now. Yeah, man. So, yeah, like I said, you know, libations and honor and praise to them brothers. Yeah. Resting peace, our brothers. Rest in peace, our brothers. That's, uh, your advertiser for today. It's. Tough. Now. It's a, it's a great segue because there's lessons in everything. And what we've learned as parents and in this life is that parenting is an awesome, exhilarating, frightening, everlasting. You got some more adjectives for me. <Laugh>. Uh, uh, uh. It's a dichotomy with, with parenting because it's bitter, it's sweet. Mm-hmm. It's good. There's bad, there's, it's a lot of size and aspects and dimensions. And, and some folks say there's so many layers Yeah. In the dimensions mm-hmm. <affirmative>, um. Because it goes through phases too. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Parenting goes experience. It's the, it's, I don't know. Even though I have memories, like I said, all his memories with the fellas and growing up and stuff, I don't know if I had, if I've ever experienced as much joy in my life as the whole spectrum of being a parent. You know what I mean? Yeah. I mean, the depths, I know when I became a parent, I understood a depth of love that I didn't know existed prior. Yeah. Yeah. You know, and you, you start getting on that level of agape, you really have an understanding of what agape love is when you become a parent. That, that, that unwavering, I'm gonna make up a word here. Sacrificial <laugh>. Sacrificial. Yeah. Sacrificial. Yeah. Uh, uh, put it on the back burner at all costs type of love mm-hmm. <affirmative>, um, that you have when you're a parent. And, um, we're going to enter a series, um, over the next several weeks with an author and a, uh, subject matter expert on parenting. Um, but today I want to speak from the male side of the parenting experience. Not only, you know, from a macho standpoint, but just we're fathers. I can't speak as a mother, you know? Right. And a mother can't speak as a father. So all you women out there that, that say how my father and a mother. And a mother, Right. That's bullshit. Right. You're a mother. <Laugh>. Right. When you, when you speak as a father, you are only doing it philosophically. You're not doing it by experience. Right. Because you're not. You. Just vice, like you said, we, we couldn't speak as. Mothers. And I would, I would never open my mouth to say something of that nature, um mm-hmm. <affirmative>, but that's just how I'm cut. And what we say, we gonna offend some people. Right. We gonna offend some males. We're gonna offend some female. We're gonna offend some people that straight, we're gonna offend some people that's gay. We're gonna offend some Republicans. We. Offend some Democrats, Republicans, greats. Yeah. Church. Church. Non non-church. I just, everybody, I just know that the man and in the black community, the strength of a father and speaking from the parental, uh, mantle of fatherhood mm-hmm. <affirmative>, which is the greatest honor. Yes. That can be dispo, be be bestowed upon any man. That's right. And any man that takes that for granted and makes babies for the sake of making babies. Right. And not being the understanding the fullness that we're gonna get into in this series with Dr. Boel on your responsibility. Right. As parenting. Yeah. Right. I got something. Again, this may may not rub people something the right way. I don't even remember the link I sent you. But this, um, this, uh, this lady said, and I thought it was very profound. She says, The African American family is the only ethnic group that doesn't acknowledge the man as the backbone of the family. African Americans say women are the backbone of the family. And and we're the only ethnic group that, that, that does that. That approaches the matriarchal, that. Approaches. Yeah. There's a lot that can be said about that <laugh>. There's a whole lot that can be said about that. And that's post circuit 1960 when the social programs ripped the black man out of the home. Probably, you know, let's start with, let's start with that utopia theory and social social science experiment. Um, that was on the heels. And, uh, uh, based on the foundation of the Willie Lynch, uh, letter in manifesto, um, the man has a divine purpose in the family unit as a parent and as the yes priest. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> of the family unit and home. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And us who understand the gospel, the Quran, the, uh, uh. Well, let me give you a science one for those who, for the, for the non-faith folks, every person on the face of this planet takes the DNA from who. The father. From who? The male the father. Mm. The male parent. And Yeah. You know, it's diminished to the point where they say sperm on it. Right. <laugh>. Um. Well, you know, it's funny they say sperm donor because they don't understand that life is in, there's a difference between the seed and the carrier of the seed. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And you can see my facial expressions. Y'all can't see it. We, we, and that's another thing we're gonna go to, uh, videos <laugh>, so y'all can get the full experience of our, of our, of our podcast. But I'm Squinching and witting because I'm a cussing Christian. <laugh>. And, uh, the, the reality is that the, the male parent has an awesome responsibility and an accountability. True. That to the family unit. Very account, very, very accountable. See, when I was talking about my bro, you know, he has, he has five children, two of which were adopted that he took on from another man. Wow. Now, I'm sorry. Six and two of those, he took on from another man. And that's, I mean, without blinking mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And that's, that's a, that's part of the well done, my good and faithful servant. Right. When you take on another man's responsibility and raise them in the way <laugh> and, and they honor you mm-hmm. <affirmative>, excuse me. Um, that's important. You know? So from our perspective, I know, and I'm not gonna speak for you, but I know we share this value, that it is an awesome responsibility and an honor, and we ain't take it lightly. Yeah. I don't take it lightly with my stepchildren. Mm-hmm. They don't know how much I pray for 'em. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> daily. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, you know, and they came into my life as adults mm-hmm. <affirmative> daily. Yeah. You know, my wife, you know, I'm, I'm, I'm more verbose here, she would say in the podcast than I am in the house. I just choose my battles, folks. You hear me? You hear me. Young man. I choose my battles wisely comes with wisdom. <laugh>. Yeah. But I've never been the, the touchy feely, you know, I joke and I play and I hug and I kiss my kids, you know, I gave them that. But I'm not an affirmation, super affirmation person. I don't affirm people for what they should be doing anyway. You know, that ain't who I am. But I will affirm you, um mm-hmm. <affirmative>, but, you know, not constantly. Um, and that's another thing as a parent and where the male structure is in parenting, from my perspective, and you can chime in at any time, Reggie, where I'm going with this, we are tasked mm-hmm. <affirmative> to teach our children as people of color, how to rise above the institutionalized racism, sexism. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> and every other ism, nationalism. Right. Immigrant and everything else that they are going to encounter as they come out of that innocence into adulthood. And too often I observe the disservices that we give our children in our community by allowing the Nintendo switches mm-hmm. <affirmative> and the 500 channels on YouTube TV or Verizon or Comcast. Right. Or whatever carrier they have. Right. Or every other outside influence, TikTok, social media, Twitter, everything. Instagram to raise them and do our jobs for them. Right. Uh, now, now people say when this pandemic hit, I heard a lot of women, and this is where they gonna get mad at me, Reggie <laugh>. I heard a lot of women say love the women. I heard, uh, you, you, you, you can play Charles Bley. I'm gonna be, I'm gonna be Ray Beats <laugh>. Cause all the views and comments on this show. <laugh> are the comments and views of this brothers of views. <laugh>. Yeah. But no filters, no water down. But during the pandemic, I heard a lot of people white. And then I heard the sisters follow suit, you know, about teachers, you know, and I can't be doing this stuff. Teachers are supposed to teach and parents parent. Um, I can't be, I can't all occur kept hearing was, I can't do this. I gotta work, I gotta do this. How do I do this? My mother has six children. Mm. We never missed a meal. None of our homework ever didn't go to school complete. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And she worked the night shift as a nurse mm-hmm. <affirmative> and still managed to, to do all the other things. She held the house down. My father was a teacher. So where was he rolling out first thing in the morning? He was driving from Northeast all the way out to Shelton hand, cuz he taught at Boys Village. He was, he taught at a correctional facility. So you understand the type of disciplinarian and things that we had. And my mother was the breadwinner. They both had middle class job, but she was the breadwinner. Okay. I never ever, ever, ever, unless it was a super special occasion, ate fast food or food out of a can. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. I ate many variations of some delicious government cheese and powdered milk and enjoyed it. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. My mother never made an excuse. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, every cake was made from scratch. Man, that generation. I tell you, you understand, they understood that they were the first and only teacher that mattered in our lives. My mother never tell, and my father never said, and he was a teacher and he never said, teachers teach and parents' parent. Mm-hmm. <Affirmative>. And as Dr. Bovell breaks it down to us, you're gonna kind of see the gap of where we are. But it all starts with where we are as a culture in not stepping up and like you said, believing that the roles have reversed. Even though my mom held it down. She had respect. She respected the man of the house. The man of the house. Yeah. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. She might not agreed with everything in the man of the house. Right. But she was, but she never cut him off at the knees. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> and my father did some fucked up shit. Mm-hmm. <Affirmative>, but she never cut him off at the knees. That was a precious generation. That's a precious. And that was what was attacked by society. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Because they were the generation of the renaissance of Harlem, Atlanta, DC Watts, Compton, the progressive movement mm-hmm. <affirmative> that we were in a black America in the forties and the fifties where we had homes sixties and seventies, but they got eroded during the sixties and seventies to where they are now. And no role was more important than the other, but there was a hierarchy and a respect. Exactly. Yeah. In being parents and being in a accord. I don't remember in my family, too many of my father's generations of people that were divorced. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, they, they, they, they wasn't doing it at least officially. Even if they weren't even. If even if. Together, together, so to speak, even if they probably live across town, they still wouldn't divorce. They wasn't. Divorced. Papa would show for the birthday parties and she still would be honored and respected. I had an uncle who had two families, you know what I'm saying? I had two sets of cousins mm-hmm. <affirmative>, we know that story. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. But they never, ever lost fact, lost sight of the fact that their responsibility in raising children. Right. And, you know, doing the hard work and being the providers and being responsible for every action that they created as a parent. Right. Even if they stepped out of their marial vows and made another family or had mm-hmm. <affirmative>, what they call a bash child or whatever. Right. You know, the act was a sin. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> not the child. Right. That's what I used to hear growing up. Right. Don't punish the child. Yep. The child didn't have anything to do. And the siege that we are under as a family unit in our community that's been over several generations in our lifetimes, the erosion that we've seen in our lifetime is disheartening. But you know, It is, they're real brothers behind the scenes that ain't looking for the glory. We're just trying to let you know John Q Public and listeners all over the world, um, that they're real brothers out here still behind the scenes more often than not, even though it's, you know, a trifling situation in our community. Right. Um, when you people speak up and say stuff like that, they just open their mouth and remove all doubt mm-hmm. <affirmative>, um, that, uh, we are stepping up to the plate and we are doing our things in an honorable Christian manner for the children in the seeds that we created that are our legacy right now are some not. Yeah. But guess what? There's some not in white communities and Hispanic communities and Asian communities and African communities too, you know, and we. Always highlight the knot. They always highlight the bads in our community. In our community. You know, I know a ton of solid African American fathers and men, a ton of 'em. I can reel off a ton of names. That's Reggie. But those who don't believe that they exist, who, who's bought into because of their bad experience or the negativity of what they may have heard or seen and think that good black fathers don't exist. I can assure you that is not the case. I have a ton of friends that are good, black, strong fathers, one of which I'm talking with. Um, Mr. Ray, you beats himself. So. I appreciate that. And vice versa. <Laugh> appreciate. That. You know, and I, you know, when people say stuff like that Right. And I'm engaging with other cultures, you know what my rebut is. What's. That? How many, you know, cause I, and then I go into the soliloquy that you just did. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Cause I can run off 40, 50 names right now. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. To one or two to one or two. To one or two. Yeah. And that about, but, but yeah. But. You know, the child support system mm-hmm. <affirmative> ain't upside down because of black men. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, I'm gonna say that again. <laugh>. <laugh>. So you gonna shock some people. The child support system ain't upside down because of black men Take it from somebody who went through it for 10 years mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> never missed a payment, couldn't miss a payment. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Cause if I did, what would happen? Reggie, my black ass will lose my license, get locked up and everything else. And. Everything else. And I prided myself on never being locked up. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. But unfortunately the black woman that I married the first time chose to put me in that system. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And guess what? I stood up to the cause. You stood up to the cause and because you not may not mention this, but because I know you personally, I know the sacrifices you made personally for the sake of your children's education and their wellbeing. And there's a lot of black fathers that have done the same. Similar, same, same. Um, so this notion. Done and doing. <Laugh> done and doing. Cause when we went, we spoke about our Vegas trip. Every last brother that was in, we were in Vegas with I know every last one of y'all. And every last one of y'all are strong black followers. Yep. Of the, of the highest quality. Yep. And that's important in parenting for any race. But I just wanna highlight what I know when people put stuff across the airways. Well this dude, well, you, you didn't know Moy well no, I didn't know Moy. <Laugh>. Right, right. But some of, some of the mos of today's generation have been impacted. What, what what you talked about leading into the discussion of how this society is operating today and the role reversals mm-hmm. <affirmative> and all of these things. A lot of things have impacted, um, some of, some of our younger. Cause. If you look at successful children, whether they're in a divorce relationship or not, and they're in a, uh, uh, functional family unit, what's the constant in the success in, in, in the, in the guys with the successful children, the parent involvement of the father. Mm. Say that one more time, bro. <laugh>. If you look at successful children, whether they're in a divorce family or a intact functional family unit with their little dysfunction, the key factor that you see in their success is because of the involvement of a father figure and their father figure. Wow. Not that being superman, not buying them every tour that they asked for. Right, Right. But being there. Right. Being provider. Right. Showing a, a work ethic. Right. Being a counselor. Yeah. Being long suffering. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> being the lord of the household. Right. Under the Lord of the universe. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, that's when we talk about that priest and high priest thing, when for those of you have that are in the Christian Church, when you read your Bible, when you, when you, when you talk about those things that attributed to their success. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. If you look at the flip side, the father's absent. Hmm. The father's absent. And I'm not talking about, I'm talking about when I say success, remember, remember way, way back when, when our first episode success don't mean that they got straight A's in high school and took AP classes and had put on a persona and did all this for that and the other. And no success. Meaning that you taught them to live to and embrace and maximize therefore potential as a productive citizen in society no matter what situation they were in. If they was doing a bit in the cut adjusted. Yeah. Or if they was preaching from a pu pit. Right? Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Because this life in a blink of an eye could take you to either one of those paths. <Laugh> True. That and our. Community In a moment. In a moment in. Our community. I'm just talking about the dmv. I'm just talking from a brother being from Northeast and a brother living in Capital Heights and in Forestville, if you will. Yeah. <laugh>. So what we wanted to do in this series, and we wanted to give you some food for thought in this, uh, entree from our perspective that what we feel is, and, and, and, and we're not diminishing the, the woman who carry and board our children. Right. Their great contribution to the lives of our children. <Laugh> ama, there, there's no diminishing, We're just speaking on the, the, the, I'm just giving you the receipts and the facts. Right. That bear to be spoken truthfully. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Cause we need to have honest conversations cuz every woman that get up on TV and start going say head side to side and talking about how bad men were and are. Right. Or I'm gonna just say this one. The, uh, I don't need a man, how did you get here? Mm-hmm. <Affirmative>. For, for every, and again. Cause I'm gonna tell you Go ahead. We, we are not on the offensive against anybody, but we are just addressing some of the things that have been said from, for those that say, for those females that say, you don't need a man. Well how did you get here? Because I need a woman. <Laugh>. I need a woman too. <laugh>. And I ain't saying. You, you, you, I love the way you said it, but I I need a woman because I I wouldn't have got here. Yeah, exactly. As Robin Harris said, I wasn't no test two baby. Right. You know, um, I need a woman to show me nurturing and affection. Right. You know, and to show me a kind of gender way to approach things. Um, and, and be in touch with who I am as a person and, and be introspective. Okay. I need a woman to love. Yeah. When I wanna procreate. That's right. Cause if I'm gay, you can't procreate. I can't procreate. I can adopt, I can do income, you know mm-hmm. <affirmative> in the L g B two Q x y, Z way and adopt a child. But I can't procreate. Okay. Right. That's just facts. Yeah. Not judging just facts. So me being a heterosexual straight man child, I need a woman to make me a better man. Yeah. I'm gonna bring it home that when you leave your parents and you look to build a union in a relationship and organically create a family because like, like Prince says, should have known when the rocket strip explodes, <laugh> and everybody still wanna fly. You can, you can, you can make a family. Absolutely. But organically, we speaking organically. Okay. When you leave your parents and you clinging unto your wife to make that union to become parents mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Because what happens when grown people who are married don't stay on their side of the bed, Generally nine months later, nine months later, come a baby or sooner <laugh>. Yeah. Some preemies, you know, some action. Yeah. <laugh>. So when that action happens, you gotta, you gotta step up to the plate. That's, and you gotta responsibility, accountability. What we're going to lead into in this wonderful series coming up by Dr. Ka Bove who talks about the four Rs of parenting. And when I tell you tune in over the next four episodes. Yes. Don't wanna miss this and hear this wisdom imparted by this beautiful woman, mother, grandmother, mentor, friend, sister who has the accolades piled high and deep from around the world. Speak to what we're, what what we gave a preamble to from our perspective. Cuz we, we only have our perspective, uh, you know, public. Right. John Q Public, John Jane and Jane Q Public, we only have our perspective. I'm not gonna speak from any other perspective than what I got receipts for. Right. That's how we say it from the streets. Yeah. We don't speak on what we don't know. Yeah. And I ain't trying to write a check that my behind can cash. Right. And and, and here's the other thing about parenting that I can say as a father that Reggie so eloquently stated that sacrifice and did everything for his kids. It's a 50 50 shot if they turn out right Or not. Even if you do everything right. Yeah. Even if you do everything right. Yeah. <laugh>, that's real talk. It's real talk. Because even though they have the innate things that you put in them, ethics, responsibility, morals, values, spiritual and release. Whether it's Judaism, Islam, Christianity, Buddhism, Daoism, uh, uh, uh, belief in a higher power, spiritualism, whatever it is. Yeah. When they leave the protection of your home Right. And your structure. It's on them now. Willingly or by force. Right. <laugh>. Let's just keep it real willingly owned by force. Yeah. They're open to so much Yeah. That they have to figure out and hopefully they figure it out. And what I'm learning in this season is that usually when they hit 27, 28, if they take the long way around. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And they don't take the council, that's so pivotal at the age of 17 to 23 when your trajectory can change quickly. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. By the moves you make in getting the education or not getting an education, smoking weed or not smoking weed, doing drugs or not doing heavy drugs. Making babies or not making babies. Right. Cause those are the things in my community that we can't seem to get over. I'm the only one out of six siblings that didn't have a child by age 19. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. I'm gonna say that again. Mm-hmm. <Affirmative>, I got. Six siblings, I got five old sisters. I'm the only one that waited till they were 29. To have a child. To have a child. Yeah. Well I fall in the, I fall in the, the first category <laugh>. I was a dad in 19 <laugh>. But. You understand what I'm saying in this community. Yes, yes, yes. You know, and it changes the trajectory. Yes, it does. Yeah. Yeah. And my level of maturity as a father was probably totally different than it would've been at 19. Cause I know what I was doing in 19. Absolutely. Absolutely. I was in Player's choice at 19. The the. Music you was used to <laugh>. It was hit and run. Lots of fun. Yeah. Lots of fun. You gets none <laugh>. Yeah. So yeah. You know. Jail going up the hill, you. Better believe it. Have a little. Fun on the way they met the Godfather. <Laugh>. That's all about the one. On one. About the one on one. But, but you know, in all candor folks, it's important to, to really understand and we wanna, we want, we hope that we get people to tune into this podcast for this series. I mean, we've, we've grown and um, I'm excited about the growth that we're heading to Reggie and the things that we've got upcoming on the podcast, um, on our, on our YouTube channel that's gonna be coming by the end of the year. And the commercials. Exciting things. And our, our guests line up and the serious topics we will be handling, uh, around. Yeah. Call, call us, get ready. Yep. And we'll have the call in lines. We we're just not going to, um, you know, be here, you know, sp espousing stuff and think that that, that we can't defend our topics. We will. Um, and we will have callers calling in. Um, but it's an evolution just like anything else. Yeah. And we are evolving. Um, we are, you know, so, um, that is the entree for today, <laugh>. And like I said, the series, uh, is gonna be on the four R's of parenting. I'm not gonna release what the four Rs are yet. I will do that in our upcoming shows. But, um, so that means you gotta stay tuned. That's kind, that's kind of called like a tease in industry, right? It. Is. It is. It's a cause. What are the four R's or cliff hanger or what are the four R's? Yay. Yay. You gotta find out. Yeah. Mm-hmm. <Affirmative>, who wants you to, You gotta find out too then. So what I want to talk about as our dessert is, uh, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm a beat this dead man. It's not a sweet one. It's a so one. It's a so one, but I'm a beat this dead horse <laugh>. I'm going back to it. I'm going back to, you know what I'm going back to. Right? Reggie going. Back. Yes indeed. Fools gold. Fools. Go. I apologize. I apologize for my preseason time mile before this season prediction. I dunno what in the world I was thinking about. Now. Was FS Gold? Yep. Now was now was Ross, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, Washington fan? No. Ross. Oh yeah. He was a die. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Yeah. So was able, so was a ball. Yeah. And uh, the Washington commanders once again, as this fools go. I was living the dream things. It just ain't true. They ain't no team. They the commodos cuz they get beat easy like Sunday morning. Easy like Sunday morning. <laugh> just fool. Go. They fools. Go. Fools go. Fools go. Yeah man. Yeah brother. So I'm not going keep looping it this time, but I just wanted to give that intro to our, our delectable dessert, which is about the debacle of this Fran. Mm-hmm <affirmative> one in, one in four. One in four on the season and on the season with with really no. It ain't gonna get no easier. <Laugh> don't look like a, don't look like light at the end of the tunnel. Now Des. We are the basement of the nfc. Yeah. Period. Not NFC coming. NFC. Coming. A laughing stock. Do you know that the entire NFC outside of the commanders, the rest of the NFC have only lost two games. Nfcs, everybody's at least 500 or above. No, they're above 500. Everybody in the NFC lease is above. 502 Losses combined with the other three teams. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And we are one and four. Yep. And there are no words that anybody out of that organization can say there are no words. Cuz it starts with the coaches. Cuz the coach has Ron Rivera. I haven't looked at the news. I didn't watch the post game. I kind of fell asleep on it. I did something interesting last night. I watched that, I watched that game up the street, up, up, up, up 95, 95. North. 95 North. And I saw the difference. Yeah. And a dude who's playing without a contract. Right. Balling out. Balling out. And a dude, I don't even know what number, uh, or uh. 11, number 11. He was <laugh>. You talking about. I'm not No, no, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not talking about he who will not be named <laugh> be 11. I'm talking about, uh, the quarterback for Baltimore. Um, I can't call the ball his name right now. I'm looking right at his face. Um, what's the quarterback's name for Baltimore? Uh, jam. Um, now look at that. You. Don having a seen moment. Yeah. Yeah. Lamar's, Lamar. Lamar Jackson, Lamar Jackson, Lamar Jackson. I don't know what he was draft pick wise. They wanted to make him a receiver coming into the nfl. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. All he does is ball dog. So he does. His mental aptitude. You know, he look like a country bumping. With the. Brave and everything. But he's wild. E coyote super genius when it comes to that playbook, into that scheme and that system and uh, uh, playing smart and taking what the defense give you. Right. Oh, he cut him up last night. It was a tight four game, but he cut him up last night. Yeah. He's, he's he's exciting tv. Yeah. He who will not be named. In Washington. In Washington is damaged goods. First of all, I don't know why Rivera isn't fired. Well, I mean that's probably, uh, getting close there. But the unfortunate thing about to it to me is that won't fix our problem. Mm-hmm. I'm not saying. It won't fix our problem. Yeah. Don't get me wrong. I'm not, I'm not saying that it's not warranted. I'm not saying that it's not justified. Cause cause cause Jackson, well not Jacksonville, but Carolina, his former Carolina, his former, uh, employer, <laugh>. Right. They pulled the trigger at one in four, didn't he? Yep. He's unemployed. He, he got, he got fired today. The head coach of the Carolina Panthers, he was terminated today. And um Yep. Matt rule. I just think that, I think that, um, if you don't perform and you putting out now, see it's a difference between putting out. Not performing, not performing, making $25,000 a year is different than not performing. Making 12 million. Making 12 million a year and the product has been so bad. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. I didn't even go. Say on that team. I didn't even go to, I didn't even go to the fan appreciation stuff. Oh. And it was local. Huh. True transparency. I didn't even, I probably saw three minutes of the game Sunday. Yeah. When the highlight of the game in this dysfunctional organization is talking about, and I'm not throwing any shade on this young man, but when the highlight of the game and the highest level of energy is when the running back that got shot six weeks ago comes back on the field and plays. Oh, he played. He played yesterday though. Wow. And did Okay. Okay. But you got this offensive coordinator that can't get out his own goddamn way when you got 19 to 25 seconds left in the game and you on the one yard line, maybe two, but I believe it was the one yard line. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. And you've been running all over these people at will all game. Right. Why you going have four passes into the end zone? Well, you know, my displeasure with um, Scott Turner. Yeah. Fire somebody please <laugh>, if you're not gonna fire the heads coach far as Scott Turner. And, and and and what if I've always complained about Scott Turner to me is, is a little bit similar in his father. Um. Well, it's only by, I mean the apple never falls far from the tree. I believe they have this philosophy of outsmarting defenses showing I'm, I'm gonna outsmart you right? Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, um, rather than saying I'm out physical, you, it doesn't, you know, I'm going run it, but that, but, but what does that really mean if you can't do anything about it? Reggie, every time they put the ball in the hands of the rookie running back and they needed two yards throughout the whole game, he gave it to him. Mm-hmm. <Affirmative> the whole game every time he was in. And he had, he he had, he had a, they had, they had him on a pitch count mm-hmm. <Affirmative>. And rightfully so he got shot in the knee and hip. Yeah. <laugh> and uh, but. Whoever else came in gave everybody to y'all. Even, even even, you know, Antonio Gibson. Right. If you needed two, three yards, they gave it to you. Right. Right. The line was blowing off. They were blowing off the line when it came to run gang hitting it blocks. Yeah. Well they. Put the game in. Carson win's. It's his hands to say probably. Not. We. Believe in you Carson. Which I would not have done out. And guess what he did? He disappointed mightily. Yeah. Let's look at the last three plays of the game. First in goal at the Tennessee. Two y'all line 18 seconds left. Incomplete pass, left second in Goal Tennessee. Two y'all line 13 seconds left. Incomplete pass, middle of the field to McKissick, third in goal at the two yard line crossing wind stairs down, McKissick throws into traffic. Triple interception, triple coverage, interception, ballgame. And he could have walked Essent in. He could have. Walked essentially, he could have walked in. So essentially you have a first in goal at the two yard line with 18 seconds. You got all the momentum, they're on their heels. All the momentum, they're on their heels and, and you can't. And, and you got a stud for a running back. Who's a rookie? You gotta stud in his, uh, junior and third year as a back. You got full backs. You mean you ain't got a jumbo package, you ain't got a two point convers package. But a jumbo. It's not about, it's not about jumbo physical, uh, smash mouth with Scott Turner. I'm going to outsmart you, I'm going to fool you, but I'm going to outsmart you. I'm going to trick you. I'm going to out clever you. That's not what football's about. Yeah, I know. And that's why he is not successful at what he does. And won't be. <Laugh>. I want you, I mean I know you said you only watched a couple plays every, every play that that rookie ran, number eight ran. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, uh, uh, Rob, uh, Brown. Right. Uh, Robinson, right? Robinson. Yeah. Robinson. That's the thing. And that's the other thing that I'm gonna get to. Yeah. He had nine carries. He had nine carries for 30 something yards. Right. Well, 29 carries for 22. Yards. 22 yards. I'm sorry. But they were good yards man. They were critical yards. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Alright. When, when we talk about players making bad decisions and bad plays, Johnson in that cornerback, he didn't even get in the game. Carson went, stunk up the game. I'd have bought Heine again. Heineke. He would've either made the right pass or ran it in. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. It's fool's gold man. It's fool's gold. It's fool's gold. But you know, the sad part is potentially you'll have a, you know, maybe in the off season you'll probably have a coaching change. You'll have a staff change. Offensive coordinator, maybe defense coordinator, maybe everybody will be gone. Right. Yeah. But what we gonna do with that pick, but number one pick you come back. What we gonna do with that number one pick. Well. But, but here's, here's the, here's the big problem that most commander fans, um, don't seem to get. You change out. Ra Ron Rivera, Scott Turner on down the line. You change all of them out. That's somebody that you're not changing. <Laugh>. And I and I and I believe that is he he is the biggest. He's a bigger, in my personal opinion, he's a bigger problem than Ron Rivera. He's a bigger problem than Scott Turner in my opinion. Yeah. He's the biggest problem of the whole thing. Franchise. Yes. Yes. It. Starts, but unfortunately, unfortunately we can't change him out. Yeah. And the league looks like. Doesn't. The league looks like they're not gonna do it. The. League looks like they're not gonna do it. I. Don't know what else he could do. I mean Yeah, I don't, I guess if he got up there and said, Nigga nigger, nigger nigger. Ni ni nigga. No, no, no. Not in the nfl. Now you know the Phoenix son's owner, they making him sell mm-hmm. NBA NBA's a little bit different. Right. Cause you know, Phoenix son's owner got himself in some trouble racially mm-hmm. <Affirmative>. Uh, and what happened? He, he needs forcing, He forcing him to sell. Yeah. This guy. <Laugh>, he was pimping. On. I was just saying, I'm gonna say what I wanted. I ain't going, I'm not felt it. I'm gonna say this guy smacking women on the behind. Right. Smacking women on behind. Having, having the cheerleaders do topless, give topless displays to some of the, I guess vi p club people or whatever and all these other accusations that was, that's flying like ping pong balls. In unhealthy organiz. In in an unhealthy organization. Work, workplace. Any other workplace? Any other workplace. Any other workplace. Yeah. You outta it. Any other workplace you out it. And then on of that allegedly financial transgressions with, with the money. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Not refunding season ticket holders and withholding, uh, revenue to the league, which impacts the rest of the owners of the league. Mm-hmm. <Affirmative>. That's all this. But. That's sad man. It's still seated. That's sad man. So it doesn't give me much hope knowing that the biggest problem ain't ain't getting swapped out. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. So I can't get excited really, to be honest the way I feel. I can't get excited if Ron Rivera and Scott Turner and all those other guys are gone. I can't get excited because the biggest problem, he, he is not gone. Right. And. To me, we're never, we're never going to win. We never going to. Win when it starts like that. Even though I don't believe in curses, <laugh> Karma is a mother. I do not believe we will win with him there. Yeah. I mean what's the best predictor of the future? The past. The. Past. Your history. Past performance is not a guarantee of future. But it is a. Good barometer. A good barometer to help, to help, to help predict future. You know what I mean? It's just like, has has has any, like, would would, would somebody make a prediction that a running back is going to run for a have a 5,000 yard season? No, no one would make that kind of prediction. Why? Because that no running back has even had a 3000 yard season. Right. There's only a few in history that have gone over is a handful, maybe five or six that might have went over 2000 yards. So. 2200 That tops. Right? Tops. Yeah. So we know from past somebody sets the bar of 5,000. We know that's ridiculous. Right. So we use the past to try to, to try to gain some rational idea what future can do. Well. Yeah. Look, this. Guy <laugh>, we the six, um, since he took over, I believe it's, I believe we the sixth losing is, if that's a word, losing this. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>, we, we we are, we have lost uh, we're sixth in losing since he's take taken over. And climbing. Probably. And climbing um, the stadium. Oh. Out of the stadiums that was rated in the NFL were stadium was rated worst. And they tried to put glamour shot in there of the club level in the game yesterday. CBS, the Joe Gibbs level. It was empty. I remember when that first stadium first opened that that Joe Gibbs level was packed. It's not a club level for real. I mean we went to a real club level. <Laugh>. There you go. It's gonna. It's not, I mean it's really not a club level. It's just. To, I listen to it game to, to, I listen. It's a little bit, I'm sorry. Do you see the wound? I open it up with this topic. Today <laugh>. And he, he only watched three minutes of the game. It's just a little bit. I mean club level experience at, at, at FedEx is just a little bit better food. That's it. It's just a tad. It's warm. Look, it's not. It's warm instead of cold, it's warm instead of cold. <Laugh>. It's not really club level. If you compare it to. So far. Stadium that got a real club level. Oh my god. We taking a trip out to sofa this year, next year. I'm not gonna lie, I'm not, you. Know, we're taking a guy's. Trip uh, you know, kept. Anybody want to go with us, we going, we going, we gonna create an event for us to go out to SoFi. Cuz that's the only like killer stadium we ain't go to. And the reason he's on that tip of the club level cuz we went to that Raider stadium and that. That was a club level. And we was on the club level <laugh>, I did not. Leave previous. The bar and the club level level until four minutes left in the game. <laugh>. And now for those of you saying, oh Reggie, you getting on, Well Ray used to work at FedEx doing the Redskin game. So he is certified to comment the, the difference between the two. Yeah. Yeah. <laugh>. Trust and believe. <Laugh>. FedEx feels some bullshit. <Laugh> <laugh>. But it could be better. It could be better. It could be better. I wouldn't, I wouldn't go to Asper. I blow that Joan up just like they did uh, Atlanta. Yep. And make it and. Make it dome. Cause you got the infrastructure right there Schneider. But see you a stupid some bitch that wouldn't do nothing like that. Yep. You could have really you put it back in DC location which would've been really nice. But you still got a good one out here in land over. Land over there. Cause you. Own the land. Cause you own the land. Yeah. Well I can tell you right now, if they go out to Ashburn, I'm not going to no games. Yeah. And especially. I heard they was making mortgage payments for people yesterday giving away tickets. <Laugh>. That's how empty the stadium was man. Yeah. They was guaranteeing one month mortgage payments <laugh>. Yeah. Well attendance has been abysmal. It's really been abysmal. Yeah. And it should be do. And I know you guys are listening but yeah we saying all this stuff cuz we keep it 100. Yeah. That don't get it. But don't get it twisted. We, we, we will never become a fan of another. I will will never be no a fan of another team. I'm stuck with the commanders. I ride with the commanders but I on the same, on the same sense I keep in 100. Yep. I'm not gonna be a delusional. Um, anything's possible. Season And that's where we apologizing for anything you can be hopeful in the preseason cuz everything's on paper. But what we've seen outta five games. Yeah. Uh, yeah. I mean and we, well when we know about week two mm-hmm <affirmative> what's going on, you know, the last couple of weeks probably what's going on the rest of the season ain ain't gonna be a real surprise. Yeah man. And, and look we got Thursday night football. Yeah we do. We. Playing the. Best. I match. I don't know how we got on there. We playing there, we, we playing how two games in five days? Think they ready <laugh>. Oh. What D story make? Oh boy. So that was our delectable dessert. I hope, I hope everybody got a good laugh out about pain. Pain. And this is, this is pain that we're not vested. So you can imagine the fanatics that live here in DC that call into the talk radio on nine 80 and all these other stations and yeah. These. Jokers was hurting. Yeah, they are. They are. Oh man. I can make, I can make fun of this abysmal and talk about this abysmal, uh, dumpster fire of a team. But you know, it's my team. It's my team. I have the, and I know I got, I gotta laugh to keep. I wear, I wear the colors every Monday. Mm-hmm. <affirmative> every Monday. Except today, if you saw me today, but I had on some red skin stuff earlier. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. I literally, literally red skin stuff. Um, and, and, and I wore red skin stuff this weekend cuz my boy Brandon was a skin fan to the Repa. Yeah. Yeah. But, uh. They still, our team good. I mean we keeping the 100 and what all I can't get on the 95 north bandwagon. I respect the. I respect them. I respect them. They doing great things. I, I, I like good play. Like I said, I watched the game last night. I, I was half falling asleep on it, but I watched it and guess, guess how I watched it, Reggie, guess how I watched it? I watched it in the Oculus. Oh, sweet. <laugh>. I pulled up. You know, that wasn't, that wasn't, I had Oculus years ago and it wasn't prime time. Really? Yeah. But, um, Oh. Man. But you can watch YouTube TV and the Oculus. Yeah. And, and that's all I have. I cut the cord, so. That's nice, man. And my, cuz my wife was watching note and I, you know, it was bedtime, like that. Movie. Yeah. Yeah. And I was like, let me put my headphones on and just go grab the oculus and plug in. And I, I laid up in bed for probably about 90 minutes and the headphones, the headless head, uh, wireless headphones that I had, the batteries died Right when she was getting in the bed. It was probably like five, 10 minutes left in the game. But before that it was all quiet. Mm. You know, and I was just laying in the bed on my back, not moving and Nice. Then the, then the thing kicked in and the, uh, sound started coming out. She was like, Why'd you turn it up? I was like, the, the headphones died. <laugh> and I, I turned it down and watched, uh, the field goal kicker make that field goal at the end after Lamar brought them down. Mm-hmm. <affirmative>. Balled out, made all the right decisions. Mm-hmm. Decisions played within himself. Played within the moment, got out of his head, got out of his own way and just played, just balled. He who shall not be named with the number 11 on the other team down 95 did the exact opposite. Mm. Did the exact opposite. The. Whole, we wish we could switch those QBs for. I wish we could take their back up. <Laugh>. Cause that's how good an organization they are of 95. Yeah. Yeah. A respected organization. The owner is highly respected versus the commanders owner. Oh yeah. Yep. Well man, we almost at, uh, hour and 20 minutes, so I'm about to fade us the black for real brother because, uh, yeah, we, we had to come back strong on our first episode. Back off hiatus y'all. Yeah. Yeah. Good to be. Back. It's great to be back and like I said, look forward to the, uh, series we had with Dr coming up our next, next four episodes and more things to come here on order.