In this episode T2C's publisher and owner Suzanna Bowling talks with Gary Springer about his son Nick who got Spinal meningitis at 14, went on to be a Paralympian and who died in 2021. We also talk about “Beyond The Raging Sea”, the gripping account of two athletes who embarked on the World's Toughest Row- 3000 miles across the Atlantic- takes a harrowing turn, mirroring the ordeal of refugees crossing dangerous sea.