Dr Lori Desautels is an author, educator, and pioneer in the field of applied educational neuroscience. She focuses on bringing a neurobiological understanding of behaviour and connection into classrooms, equipping educators and students alike with tools to navigate stress and adversity. As the creator of Applied Educational Neuroscience at Butler University, Lori's work bridges research and practice, transforming how we think about teaching, learning, and relationships in educational settings. Megan has been following Lori's work for a long time, utilising a lot of Lori's practices during her time as a teacher and school leader.
In this podcast, Lori and Megan discuss the importance of adults developing an understanding of their own neurobiology and the impact of learning and modelling these skills alongside young people. Lori emphasises that this work isn't confined to the classroom; it's about how we show up in all aspects of life. She shares a candid story about a chaotic day with her Year 5 students, modelling vulnerability and the reality that even experienced educators don't always have all the answers. The conversation also explores a powerful new tool in Lori's work: the ecology map. This tool helps both young people and adults identify practices, places, and people that provide safety and strength, those that feel wobbly but have potential for growth, and those that create stress.
Lori's dedication to blending science, compassion, and education has reshaped how we approach learning and behaviour in schools. Her insights inspire educators, parents, and anyone working with children to see relationships as the foundation for growth and healing.
Dr Lori Desautels website (which includes so many free resources) can be found here.
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Host: Megan Corcoran, Wagtail Institute
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